树影Dairon{一个真辛达}

哈哈哈哈哈哈脑了很有学术（八卦）精神的（神烦的）平锅螺丝私人专访各位维拉，采访曼威瓦尔妲曼督斯米尔寇等神哈哈哈哈

三星望月:

Pengolodh果然很有学术精神（八卦），您老都去哪里找这些研究资料的？私人专访吗？不会被吊打吗？有亲友说起这些个八卦问题，咳咳……

Here Pengolodh adds a long note on the use of hröar（body） by the Valar. In brief he says that though in origin a "self-arraying", it may tend to approach the state of "incarnation", especially with the lesser members of that order (the Maiar). "It is said that the longer and the more the same hröa is used, the greater is the bond of habit, and the less do the 'self-arrayed' desire to leave it. As raiment may soon cease to be adornment, and becomes (as is said in the tongues of both Elves and Men) a 'habit', a customary garb. Or if among Elves and Men it be worn to mitigate heat or cold, it soon makes the clad body less able to endure these things when naked". Pengolodh also cites the opinion that if a "spirit" (that is, one of those not embodied by creation) uses a hröa for the furtherance of its personal purposes, or (still more) for the enjoyment of bodily faculties, it finds it increasingly difficult to operate without the hröa. The things that are most binding are those that in the Incarnate have to do with the life of the hröa itself, its sustenance and its propagation. Thus eating and drinking are binding, but not the delight in beauty of sound or form. Most binding is begetting or conceiving. （Ósanwe-kenta）

维拉/迈雅使用同一个形体越久越频繁，与它的“绑定”程度也越高。这过程是循序渐进的，用同一形体进行的各种活动都会加强“绑定”。吃饭喝水是种“绑定”，但最彻底的绑定是怀孕和生育。你们以为让本来换皮跟换衣服似的迈雅生个孩子那么容易吗？！  

The great Valar do not do these things: they beget not, neither do they eat and drink...

"We do not know the axani (laws, rules, as primarily proceeding from Eru) that were laid down upon the Valar with particular reference to their state, but it seems clear that there was no axan against these things.        Nonetheless it appears to be an axan, or maybe necessary consequence, that if they are done, then the spirit must dwell in the body that it used, and be under the same necessities as the Incarnate.        The only case that is known in the histories of the Eldar is that of       Melian who became the spouse of King Elu-thingol. This certainly was not evil or against the will of Eru, and though it led to sorrow,        both Elves and Men were enriched. （Ósanwe-kenta）        
   

维拉们不吃不喝不养娃，美丽安是已知的唯一特例，而且似乎还有buff。二位堪称开创混血高端精品线的先驱wwwww  

Melian alone of all those spirits assumed a bodily form, not only as a raiment but as a permanent habitation in form and powers like to the bodies of the Elves. This she did for love of Elwe; and it was permitted, no doubt because this union had already been foreseen in the beginning of things, and was woven into the Amarth of the world...(Peoples of Middle Earth) 

这特例是有中央红头文件的。美莲太太你对老公是真爱Q Q  

... in that union she became bound by the chain and trammels of the flesh of Arda. In that form she bore to him Lúthien Tinúviel; and in that form she gained a power over the substance of Arda... (The Silmarillion)

好吧，这段似乎是小托自己写的，但我觉得还是符合上面托老自己设想的情况。所以，这个“绑定”之后果然有buff，否则她就没有这种力量。或许也正是因为这点，她比一般的埃努更特殊。

【以下内容已经超越我理解范围，暂时想到哪算哪吧】

话说这种力量到底是什么呢？我也不知道……【喂】这句话到底该理解为“控制阿尔达物质的力量”还是“超越阿尔达物质的力量”？

如果是“控制”，那又是怎么控制？跟环带又有什么联系？那环带是“看不见的”“魔法屏障”，闯入者会迷失其中。意思是她能用周边的树摆迷魂阵？可以拆墙？可以开闸放洪水？……那“阿尔达的物质”到底是个什么范畴？埃努本来就是参与建造阿尔达的，可以说“阿尔达的物质”本来就出自他们的初始创造。这范围也太大了，精灵的形体也是阿尔达的物质构成的，她能……染发？整容？转基因？美莲太太那谜之200年你到底对你老公做了什么？不对！这些跟环带有什么关系！

如果理解为“超越阿尔达物质的力量”，那么，阿尔达的物质，无论它多硬都有一点共同的——能被破坏（指物理损坏）。“超越”的意思是这种力量无法被物理破坏？这样的力量倒是存在，mind的。美丽安环带那种“none thereafter could pass against her will or the will of King Thingol”的作用，倒是跟“Nothing can penetrate the barrier of Unwill”有异曲同工之处，直接用“拒绝”（mind closed）把对方“墙”了。意识上的“墙”，除了伊露维塔是无法强行破坏的，米尔寇试过，失败——“To her(Melian) often his(Morgoth) thought reached out, and there was foiled.武力硬闯也试过，不过基本每次到边境就被切掉了，“Doriath he knew, but could not enter yet.”但这应该不能算环带的作用。唯二进来的两个不是天机就是神谕或者是主线剧情强制通过……我没找到环带对强行武力闯入者的作用的例子，对此我深表遗憾【喂】

至于环带的消失跟她老公的死有什么关系，我依旧不知道【我很诚实】。至少不会是单纯因为“悲伤”，那个时候的悲伤应该不及她知道女儿的“必死”命运时强烈。要说她维持不了形体也不可能，她形体又不是跟她老公绑定的【咳】……如果确实跟“精神力“有关，比如它对环带的效果有加强效果（因为作用方式太像了），那么既然环带的“开关”取决于他们双方的will，或许本身就需要双方共同支撑，少了一个都维持不了……算了，随便怎么想吧。不要问我精神上的union是怎么实现的！

美莲太太您可以出书了，《Fifty Shades of Grey·魔法森林版》，阿门洲限量200本【你很烦啊！

 

Thus, as 'Morgoth', when Melkor was confronted by the existence of other inhabitants of Arda, with other wills and intelligences, he was enraged by the mere fact of their existence, his only notion of dealing with them was by physical force, or the fear of it. His sole ultimate object was their destruction. (Myths Transformed, HoME 10）

虽然米尔寇他会用精神伤害法，看起来好像很机智，但这不是他的目的，也不是他的主要技能点，他其实挺傻大粗的。他的技能点几乎是加在了暴力手段物理破坏，他要把一切都毁灭，为了剔除原著搞自己的OOC同人产业。

所以“隐匿策略”，如果运用得好，它的成功不在于“躲”，而在于切断了魔苟斯的，呃，“访问途径”，所以他恨他们也怕他们。倒不是因为他们法力无边（也不存在这号角色），因为他根本找不到突破口，他也不了解对方的情报，于是在家里气得跳脚。贡多林隐藏了，纳国斯隆德也隐藏了，多瑞亚斯倒是第一次就知道位置，打不进去。这种明明知道他们存在但就是死活找不到or找到也被当成狼外婆关门外的心情一定非常痛苦，我是十分同情他【你烦死了！

    Melkor alone of the Great became at last       bound to a bodily form; but that was       because of the use that he made of this in his purpose to become Lord of the Incarnate, and of the great evils that he did in the visible body. Also he had dissipated his native powers in the control of his agents and servants, so that he became in the end, in himself and without their support,        a weakened thing, consumed by hate and unable to restore himself from the state into which he had fallen.     

米尔寇他也跟形体“绑定”了，因为他用这形体干了太多坏事。当然他的“绑定”是非法的，所以没有buff。而且他把力量都用在控制他的小弟们干坏事上了，随着他的小弟们一个个被灭，他也逐渐变成了一只武功全废只能送菜的水货。最后被扔出去了╮(╯▽╰)╭

其实论精神控制技能，蘑菇他真的不如索大眼，大眼才是黑客帝国安格班的首席技术总监！【什么鬼啊……

    Melkor could not 'beget', or have any spouse (though he attempted to ravish Arien, this was to destroy and distain her, not to beget fiery offspring).      

我勒个去！蘑菇丝你……你没救了！你还是干脆点自宫算了！